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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi Johan,<br><br>if you are interested in the details see <a href="http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/</a><br><br>It contains links to the program, the manual etc.<br><br>The program is rather for OSM experts, and although I am <br>helping to maintain it I also like to use<br>Lambertus service when I need a map for my<br>cycle tours ;-)<br><br>Gerd<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: spa@thecyberinn.com<br>To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br>Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:05:08 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#558ED5;" lang="EN-US">Hi Gerd</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">For the programmer, the best situation is a fixed<br>set of input files and parms that allows him to reproduce<br>the problem on his own machine.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#558ED5;" lang="EN-US">I agree.<br>I have no idea how to do this, but I can imagine that for this I need </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#558ED5;" lang="EN-US">OSM data and the mkgmap compiler, not true?<br><br>Johan <br><br></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk [mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerd Petermann<br><b>Sent:</b> 3. oktober 2014 11:54<br><b>To:</b> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Hi Johan,<br><br>you are downloading the files produced by the server.<br>These files depend on several input files, program parameters,<br>the mkgmap release and - of course- the OSM data.<br>If an error occurs or disappears, we never know<br>exactly why, and - to me - the server is a black box.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">For the programmer, the best situation is a fixed<br>set of input files and parms that allows him to reproduce<br>the problem on his own machine.<br><br></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Gerd</span></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr id="ecxstopSpelling" align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From: spa@thecyberinn.com<br>To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br>Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:35:16 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">Hi Gerd<br><br>If you think the problem is caused by mkgmap, it would be of great help<br>if you could reproduce the problem with e.g. the wrong-exit.osm<br>that I used.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">Mmmmm, is this not what I have been doing here?</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">Johan</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk [mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerd Petermann<br><b>Sent:</b> 3. oktober 2014 11:17<br><b>To:</b> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Hi Johan,<br><br>okay, mkgmap r3336 is the current version of the map compiler mkgmap, which<br>is used by Lambertus who offers the service at <span style="color:black;"><a href="http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/" target="_blank">http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/</a></span>.<br>The r3336 simply means it is based on the revision 3336 in the Subversion repository.<br>You can download this program here:<br><span style="color:black;"><a href="http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/download/mkgmap.html" target="_blank">http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/download/mkgmap.html</a></span><br><br>If you think the problem is caused by mkgmap, it would be of great help<br>if you could reproduce the problem with e.g. the wrong-exit.osm<br>that I used.<br>You may also try if the <br>"Routable Bicycle (Openfietsmap Lite)" shows the same problem.<br><br>@Lambertus: Do you publish the style and the options that are used for your service<br>anywhere?<br><br>Ciao,<br>Gerd</span></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From: spa@thecyberinn.com<br>To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br>Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 10:54:47 +0200<br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Hi Gerd<br><br>I just want to let you know that I do not compile and/or edit any OSM maps. I do not have any experience in the area. I therefore have no idea what “mkgmap r3336” is.<br><br>The way I get OSM maps onto my PGS is by visiting <a href="http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/" target="_blank">http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/</a>, selecting the desired tiles “Generic Routable (new style)” and then clicking on “Build my map”. I then run the *.exe file that will extract the tiles and see to it that I have the correct imported map into BaseCamp. From there load the maps onto my GPS.<br><br>Your two *.img files (V1 & V2) I just copied directly onto my GPS for the testing purposes. BO TH work perfectly when I simulate a route… the Danish voice prompt guides me to take the correct exit & and the icon indication the relive position for exiting the roundabout is correct.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Regards<br>Johan</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk [mailto:mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerd Petermann<br><b>Sent:</b> 3. oktober 2014 07:55<br><b>To:</b> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mkgmap-dev] Incorrect runabout exit indication</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"></span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Hi Johan,</span></p><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-align:center;" align="center"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">And yes... I'm fearing the firmware as the culprit too, however, Garmin's maps and other third party maps complied with others compilers work perfectly....</span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">okay, I did not get that before.<br>There is a function in mkgmap that manipulates the values of angles to assure<br>that Garmin gives correct advices at e.g. roundabouts:<br>--adjust-turn-headings<br>I think this might be the reason for the problem.<br>I've compiled two gmapsupp files for the roundabout from your 2nd example,<br>once with (v1), once without this option (v2)<br><br>Please check if you see a difference.<br>The attached file contains the input file and the different gmapsupp <br>files produced with mkgmap r3336:<br><br>v1: java -jar mkgmap.jar --route --index --gmapsupp wrong-exit.osm<br>v2: java -jar mkgmap.jar --route --index --gmapsupp --adjust-turn-headings wrong-exit.osm<br><br>Gerd</span></p></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><br>_______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a> <a href="http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev" target="_blank">http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev</a></span></p></div></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"><br>_______________________________________________ mkgmap-dev mailing list <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a> <a href="http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev" target="_blank">http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev</a></span></p></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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