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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi Felix,<br><br>okay, I'll try to reproduce it.<br><br>Gerd<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br>To: gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com<br>From: extremecarver@gmail.com<br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:45:05 +0200<br><br>
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<div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">On 03.09.2015 10:43, Gerd Petermann
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
great!<br>
Do you have the log (created with
me.parabola.imgfmt.app.net.AngleChecker.level=INFO<br>
in logging.properties)<br>
for this point and the one where the u-turn happens?<br>
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Nope - did not use that.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:DUB112-W6454A43BB15110FFD8EB549E680@phx.gbl">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
Does it also happen when you chose points which are not on the
road<br>
but close to it?<br>
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yes. Does not seem to matter.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:DUB112-W6454A43BB15110FFD8EB549E680@phx.gbl">
<div dir="ltr"><br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:25:50 +0200<br>
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br>
From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a>;
<a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><br>
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<div dir="ltr">
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<div>
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<div>
<div>
<div>Hi Gerd - okay now with patched and
removing --adjust-turn-headinfs - plus adding
both options I can see (vs before with
adjust-turns-headings)<br>
</div>
a) improvements on some tight turns (though not
all tight turns)<br>
</div>
b) less of those errors (though some still exist -
but much less)<br>
</div>
c) less erroneous detours on longer routes<br>
</div>
d) valid only for Car/Motorcycle routing - often on
the same route shorter times - sometimes longer as
well though. The other profiles are much less affected
here.<br>
<br>
</div>
e) no difference at all in the maximum routable
distance.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
Once a strange degradation (again same place as
yesterday):<br>
</div>
Routing is alway correct on old map - but times are much
slower. Old map nearly always had 1min<br>
<div>
<div><img alt="Inline images 1" src="cid:part1.03070901.01040001@gmail.com" height="323" width="164"><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Only on Driving profile this bug happens (but no
other - even Motorcycle is fine). Still 1min. However
all other profiles (except walking) are between
26-28seconds.<br>
<img alt="Inline images 2" src="cid:part2.07090403.08020403@gmail.com" height="273" width="115"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Overall I would say it's a clear improvement (but
yeah - those additional ways I guess would still be
better).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 3 September 2015 at 08:43,
Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
if you get the same differences with the unpatched
version and <br>
--adjust-turn-headings turned on/off I see no
miracles.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
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<hr>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 08:21:43 +0200
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<div class="h5"><br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp
angles<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Ah - thanks. Well too strange I still
got some differences... <br>
</div>
I did not know and wondered why I found so
little difference. <br>
<br>
</div>
So more results in 1-3 hours - back to
testing now.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On 3 September 2015 at 07:03, Gerd
Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
got your mail with the pictures.<br>
Please check:<br>
You wrote that you used
--x-cycle-map, but you did not
mention <br>
--x-fix-sharp-angles. I was probably
not clear about these options.<br>
<br>
If you did not also use
--x-fix-sharp-angles you measured
the effect<br>
of the removal of the
--adjust-turn-headings option, as
--x-cycle-map<br>
on it own has no effect with the
patch.<br>
<br>
Reg. testing: Please try to route to
points close to but not on the road.<br>
Maybe this avoids the u-turns when
the Garmin algo reaches the target<br>
on the "right" road (but "wrong"
arc) and adds a u-turn to get on the
road <br>
arc that was selected as target.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<hr>Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 21:40:34
+0200<br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch
v2] sharp angles
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<div><br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Well - I used <br>
--x-cycle-map<br>
<br>
</div>
but for some intersections
it would still not work.
In 4 out of 10 long
distance routing examples
I tried in Basecamp - the
result was better. In 4 it
was the same, and in 2 it
was slightly worse. <br>
</div>
So overall it is a modest
improvement - but I would
have hoped for a bit more.
Still - clearly and
improvement.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On 29 August 2015 at
23:11, Felix Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry - I
was on an enduro MTB
Race for the last week
- I will start testing
on Tuesday...<br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<div>On 28 August
2015 at 17:34,
Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
oops. the link
for the binary
was missing:<br>
<code><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar" target="_blank">http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar</a><br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
</code>
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To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank"></a><a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
Date: Fri, 28
Aug 2015
17:33:39 +0200<br>
Subject:
[mkgmap-dev]
[Patch v2]
sharp angles
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Hi
all, <br>
<br>
attached is v2
of the patch,
the binary is
here:<br>
<br>
<br>
Correction:
the previous
versions did
not change
angles like
this: /\<br>
Improvement:
For bicycle
maps, the
angle is
changed up to
90° for arcs <br>
with high road
speeds.<br>
<br>
Options
(--x-fix-sharp-angles
and
--x-cycle-map)
are the same.<br>
<br>
@Felix: I wait
for your
feedback now,
as I have no
way to test
with your
style.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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keep on biking and discovering new trails
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