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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Hi Felix,<br><br>I am a bit confused now. I just downloaded and installed mtbaustria.exe (files in it where <br>created 2015-09-02)<br>and I see the error at node 2509650557 (detour and u-turn at node 255940422)<br><br>What do you call the "old map" ?<br><br>Gerd<br><br><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:27:10 +0200<br>From: extremecarver@gmail.com<br>To: mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br><br><div dir="ltr">okay - will do so tomorrow - right now my server is blocked up rendering...<br></div><div class="ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 3 September 2015 at 15:19, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br><br>attached is the file I use with <br>-Dlog.config=mkgmap_log.props<br><br>It produces one or more files mkgmap.log.*<br><br>For our purpose you should run mkgmap with only a small input file.<br><br>I was not yet able to reproduce the problem, but it looks similar to one<br>that I fixed with v2 of the patch. <br><br>Gerd<br><br><div><hr>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:13:04 +0200<div><div class="h5"><br>From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Well that's exactly what I was reading - but as I did not get any log - I guess I'm not really understanding it (it must miss some steps).<br></div>I did have:<br>-Dlog.config=logging.properties<br></div>in my java -jar call, and created the logging.properties file - but there must be something I was missing (codepage, additional steps or so on...)<br></div><div><br><div>On 3 September 2015 at 14:26, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br><br>see here:<br><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev#Enabling_Debugging" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap/dev#Enabling_Debugging</a><br><br>Another basic sample is in mkgmap/resources/logging.properties<br><br>Gerd<br><br><div><hr>To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 14:10:11 +0200<div><div><br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br><br>
I'm not really sure I got it right for debug:<br>
<br>
<br>
C:\OpenMTBMap\maps>start /low /b /wait java -jar
-XX:StringTableSize=100003 -Xms6000M -Xmx10300M
-Dlog.config=logging.properties c:\openmtbmap\mkgmap.jar
--max-jobs=8 "--generate-sea" "--latin1"
"--precomp-sea=c:\openmtbmap\maps\sea.zip" "--style-fil<br>
e=c:\openmtbmap\openmtbmap_style" --x-fix-sharp-angles
--x-cycle-map --nsis --index --levels="0:24, 1:23, 2:22, 3:21,
4:20, 5:19, 6:18" --overview-levels="7:17, 8:16, 9:15, 10:14, 11:13,
12:12" --add-pois-to-areas --reduce-point-density=3.4 --reduce<br>
-point-density-polygon=6 --housenumbers --link-pois-to-ways
--ignore-turn-restrictions --polygon-size-limits="24:16, 23:14,
22:12, 21:11, 20:10, 19:9, 18:8, 17:7, 16:6, 15:5, 14:4, 13:3, 12:2,
11:0, 10:0" --description=openmtbmap_at --show-profiles=1<br>
--location-autofill=bounds,is_in,nearest
--bounds=c:\openmtbmap\maps\bounds.zip --route --country-abbr=at
--country-name=austria --mapname=63650000 --family-id=6365
--product-id=1 --series-name=openmtbmap_austria_03.09.2015
--family-name=mtbmap_at<br>
_03.09.2015 --tdbfile --overview-mapname=mapsetc --keep-going
--area-name="<a href="http://austria_03.09.2015_openmtbmap.org" target="_blank">austria_03.09.2015_openmtbmap.org</a>" -c
e:\openmtbmap\maps\template.austria 7*.img<br>
Time started: Thu Sep 03 14:04:01 CEST 2015<br>
<br>
and in <br>
C:\OpenMTBMap\maps<br>
<br>
I put a file called logging.properties (Unix EOL / UTF8 without BOM)<br>
with <br>
me.parabola.imgfmt.app.net.AngleChecker.level=INFO<br>
<br>
as content - but I don't see any outpout...<br>
So I'ld need a better description how to configure it for logging..<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 03.09.2015 10:51, Gerd Petermann
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
okay, I'll try to reproduce it.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2]
sharp angles<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:45:05 +0200<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 03.09.2015 10:43, Gerd
Petermann wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
great!<br>
Do you have the log (created with
me.parabola.imgfmt.app.net.AngleChecker.level=INFO<br>
in logging.properties)<br>
for this point and the one where the u-turn happens?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
Nope - did not use that.<br>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
Does it also happen when you chose points which are not on
the road<br>
but close to it?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
yes. Does not seem to matter.<br>
<blockquote>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:25:50
+0200<br>
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2] sharp angles<br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a>;
<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>Hi Gerd - okay now with patched and
removing --adjust-turn-headinfs - plus
adding both options I can see (vs before
with adjust-turns-headings)<br>
</div>
a) improvements on some tight turns
(though not all tight turns)<br>
</div>
b) less of those errors (though some still
exist - but much less)<br>
</div>
c) less erroneous detours on longer routes<br>
</div>
d) valid only for Car/Motorcycle routing - often
on the same route shorter times - sometimes
longer as well though. The other profiles are
much less affected here.<br>
<br>
</div>
e) no difference at all in the maximum routable
distance.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
Once a strange degradation (again same place as
yesterday):<br>
</div>
Routing is alway correct on old map - but times are
much slower. Old map nearly always had 1min<br>
<div>
<div><img alt="Inline images 1" src="cid:part4.02010007.00060904@gmail.com" height="323" width="164"><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Only on Driving profile this bug happens (but
no other - even Motorcycle is fine). Still 1min.
However all other profiles (except walking) are
between 26-28seconds.<br>
<img alt="Inline images 2" src="cid:part5.09060408.06070306@gmail.com" height="273" width="115"><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Overall I would say it's a clear improvement
(but yeah - those additional ways I guess would
still be better).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On 3 September 2015 at
08:43, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
if you get the same differences with the
unpatched version and <br>
--adjust-turn-headings turned on/off I see no
miracles.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr>Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 08:21:43 +0200
<div>
<div><br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Patch v2]
sharp angles<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Ah - thanks. Well too strange I
still got some differences... <br>
</div>
I did not know and wondered why I
found so little difference. <br>
<br>
</div>
So more results in 1-3 hours - back to
testing now.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On 3 September 2015 at 07:03,
Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
got your mail with the
pictures.<br>
Please check:<br>
You wrote that you used
--x-cycle-map, but you did not
mention <br>
--x-fix-sharp-angles. I was
probably not clear about these
options.<br>
<br>
If you did not also use
--x-fix-sharp-angles you
measured the effect<br>
of the removal of the
--adjust-turn-headings option,
as --x-cycle-map<br>
on it own has no effect with
the patch.<br>
<br>
Reg. testing: Please try to
route to points close to but
not on the road.<br>
Maybe this avoids the u-turns
when the Garmin algo reaches
the target<br>
on the "right" road (but
"wrong" arc) and adds a u-turn
to get on the road <br>
arc that was selected as
target.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>
<hr>Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015
21:40:34 +0200<br>
From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev]
[Patch v2] sharp angles
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Well - I used <br>
--x-cycle-map<br>
<br>
</div>
but for some
intersections it
would still not
work. In 4 out of 10
long distance
routing examples I
tried in Basecamp -
the result was
better. In 4 it was
the same, and in 2
it was slightly
worse. <br>
</div>
So overall it is a
modest improvement -
but I would have hoped
for a bit more. Still
- clearly and
improvement.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>On 29 August 2015
at 23:11, Felix
Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Sorry
- I was on an
enduro MTB Race
for the last
week - I will
start testing on
Tuesday...<br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><br>
<div>On 28
August 2015 at
17:34, Gerd
Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
oops. the link
for the binary
was missing:<br>
<code><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar" target="_blank">http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/280/mkgmap.jar</a><br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
</code>
<div>
<hr>From: <a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><br>
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Date: Fri, 28
Aug 2015
17:33:39 +0200<br>
Subject:
[mkgmap-dev]
[Patch v2]
sharp angles
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Hi
all, <br>
<br>
attached is v2
of the patch,
the binary is
here:<br>
<br>
<br>
Correction:
the previous
versions did
not change
angles like
this: /\<br>
Improvement:
For bicycle
maps, the
angle is
changed up to
90° for arcs <br>
with high road
speeds.<br>
<br>
Options
(--x-fix-sharp-angles
and
--x-cycle-map)
are the same.<br>
<br>
@Felix: I wait
for your
feedback now,
as I have no
way to test
with your
style.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
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