<div dir="ltr">Here in Thailand there is an understanding that an unclassified way is more important than a residential way but less important than a tertiary highway. See <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Highway_classification">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Thailand#Highway_classification</a> for more information. Most but not all unclassified ways are paved in Thailand.<div><br></div><div>I never understood the reasoning behind this but the practice is in wide use and mappers here generally abide by it. I think it might have come about because mappers were looking for a way to classify roads that are important connectors but were not strictly residential and that have no official designation like a route number.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Felix Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>For Unclassified - yes I agree. It should be rather unpaved. However for at least highway=cycleway and highway=unclassified (very rare anyhow) - I think a country based list wouldn't be too bad. If you know that 99% of such ways in your country are paved - shout out.... Otherweise IMHO both should be assumed unpaved.<br></div>Unclassified I would guess paved by default for Central/Western/ European countries? But unpaved for Northern (but not Denmark), Eastern European countries - and the rest of the world? Certainly unpaved for most of Asia and Africa...<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 September 2015 at 10:46, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi Felix,<br><br>okay, got the point, but why do we assume that a highway=unclassified is paved<br>when no other tag gives information?<br>Might be a good assumption in Germany or Austria, but probably not in other areas.<br><br>Gerd<br><br><br><br><div><hr>Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 10:32:14 +0200<br>From: <a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] default style: highway=path means unpaved?<div><div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Well that was introduced because it is unknown. If you have a map and want to avoid unpaved ways - and select that - then there really should be no unpaved ways. If we don't set unpaved here - the avoidance will not be strict enough anymore...<br></div>highway=path & bicycle=designated could well be a tracktype=grade2 and sometimes even grade3 or worse... And in cases of a mtb route - clearly something completely unrideable for a normal cyclist...<br></div><div><br><div>On 8 September 2015 at 10:19, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<br><br>I just noted that the default style sets the mkgmap:unpaved<br>flag for many cycleways, e.g.<br><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/276070019</a><br><br>I see intensive discussions about wrong use of <br>highway=path and/or wrong interpretation of that tag.<br><br>The rule in lines is <br>(highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced)<br>& surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=*<br>{ add mkgmap:unpaved=1 } <br><br>My understanding is that highway=track is likely to be unpaved, but<br>highway=path doesn't suggest that, esp. not in combination with<br>bicycle=designated.<br><br>Does anybody have a better solution?<span><font color="#888888"><br><br>Gerd<br> </font></span></div></div>
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