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<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>HI,</p><p class=MsoNormal>not sure if we meant the same thing:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Map displayed with hillshading (Looks ok):</p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/370/2017-12-16_10-57-56_194.jpeg">http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/370/2017-12-16_10-57-56_194.jpeg</a> </li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Menu item 3d-view</p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/371/2017-12-16_10-58-44_277.jpeg">http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/371/2017-12-16_10-58-44_277.jpeg</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Error</p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a href="http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/372/2017-12-16_10-58-56_743.jpeg">http://files.mkgmap.org.uk/download/372/2017-12-16_10-58-56_743.jpeg</a></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andreas</p><p class=MsoNormal>Gesendet von <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> für Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><b>Von: </b><a href="mailto:osm@pinns.co.uk">osm@pinns</a><br><b>Gesendet: </b>Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017 20:34<br><b>An: </b><a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br><b>Betreff: </b>Re: [mkgmap-dev] DEM File Format and mkgmap</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>
<p>Hi Andreas</p>
<p>I have been able to make it work (tapping on the arrows) on my
Oregon 600 but its very sluggish and at one stage it just freezes.</p>
<p>I think you are right ; there is an issue.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/12/2017 19:30, Andreas Schmidt
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<span>Hi Frank,<br>
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with ypur great tool I am able to <br>
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- have3d - View in basecamp<br>
- hillshading on Oregon600<br>
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Thats really amazing !<br>
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In Oregon there is also a menu item „3D“. Even if the map Shows
Up hillshading,, this function doesnt work. Oregon complains
that the map does Not have enough hight information. <br>
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Could you make it work on your device?<br>
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Andreas <br>
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Von: Frank Stinner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:frank.stinner@leipzig.de"><frank.stinner@leipzig.de></a><br>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] DEM File Format and mkgmap<br>
Datum: 08.12.2017, 09:27 Uhr<br>
An: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
Hi,<br>
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i must confess, i have never tried to decompilea garmin dem map.
I have only playing with bit-patterns and then lookingfor the
result in mapsource. But i'm sure, that we have different
algorithmsor one algorithm with different special cases.<br>
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My description in the pdf is (only) validfor the „TOPO
Deutschland v3“. Please see the pages 3 and 4. There area few
"unknown values". <br>
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For example see "Codierungstyp"(coding type) for a 64x64 tile. I
found in different garmin maps valuesfrom 0 to 6. 0 is the
standard. It seems to be, that the coding type haveno influence
of the algorithm, but i'm not sure. Presumable is this typeonly
important for different interpretations of the height values.
BuildDEMFileuse type 1 for areas with "unknown height". This is
in this casethe interpretation for height=maxvalue.<br>
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Unknown is also the byte on position 0x25in the dem header. In
the „TOPO Deutschland v3“ there we have 0x1 buti have also seen
in other maps 0x0.<br>
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Interesting is also the word in 0x12 in evereyzoomlevel
definition (see page 26 in the pdf). In the „TOPO Deutschlandv3“
thats all 0. But i have also found 0x100, 0x200, 0x400. Perhaps
akind of multiplier for heights?<br>
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Very important is the bytes 0x0 (and 0x1)in everey zoomlevel
definition. In the „TOPO Deutschland v3“ 0x0 is ever0. 0x1 seems
to be a number as "link" to a maplevel. But i don'treally
understand the sense ot that. We can have 6 maplevels and we
cansay the maplevel 2 and 4 are without dem's?<br>
<br>
In a little demo map from garmin i have see"twins" of
zoomlevelnumbers, one with value 0 on 0x0 and onewith 1 on 0x0.
Perhaps 0x0 is for different and optimized output on pcand gps?<br>
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I think, a decompiler with the algo frommy pdf is working only
for this special case:<br>
0x15 in dem header should be 0 (meter)<br>
0x25 in dem header should be 1<br>
0x0 and 0x12 in every zoomlevel should 0<br>
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By the way, have anybody see a dem with valuesin foot? The
values in such a dem should be greater then for a dem in
meter.Have anybody height values with a precision of foot? The
conversion fromfoot to meter would be a first compression step.
If garmin really use "foot",then a different/better compression
algo make sense.<br>
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Frank</span>
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