<div dir="ltr">oh - forgot to mention. If roads are thrown away - that's complicated. Actually for my maps I would need to have a rule like 1. throw away any road with type 0x13 (I use that type invisible) - then throw away those created earlier in the style. I build my style that first things like route=hiking are created routable (using continue), or bridges to improve the chance they are used for routing, then the style ends with the actual road being inserted. And well - if something is thrown away because such doubling cannot be fixed - it would be better if the first instances therefore are thrown away, and the last 4 or 5 kept - however 0x13 should always be thrown away first.<div><br></div><div>Felix</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 February 2018 at 23:26, Felix Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">and yeah - way
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">111528851 is causing even more troubles. If you simply create a rule like</span><div>route=hiking <span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>[0x13 road_class=4 road_speed=2 resolution 24 continue]<br></div><div><br></div><div>then mkgmap puts in a long merged road, however a road with a 180° turn in itself - and routing in this case is going pretty havoc in Basecamp - on the other junction you're right - it seems that it's only visually incorrect, but routing instructions are correct - while in this case routing also goes wild.</div><div>(oh I changed the patch from 4 to 5 instances - I do think 5 overall instances of a single road is okay, 6 is too much and causes some devices (reportedly edge) to switch off, while others will simply draw a long straight line through the air or not route along that section at all.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 February 2018 at 23:17, Felix Hartmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Oh sorry, I'm stupid. I did not realise that I need to copy in the optional lib files also to the running instance of mkgmap.jar. Really should have noticed that based on the error message.<div><br></div><div>well anyhow - here is the debug data and the orig.osm.pbf compiled with the patched mkgmap version: <a href="https://openmtbmap.org/map_with_debug.zip" target="_blank">https://openmtbmap.org/map_wit<wbr>h_debug.zip</a></div><span class="m_-1044109773036283646HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Felix</div></font></span></div><div class="m_-1044109773036283646HOEnZb"><div class="m_-1044109773036283646h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 February 2018 at 22:49, Gerd Petermann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.c<wbr>om</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
sorry, I always use the debugging stuff within Eclipse.<br>
Something like this should work:<br>
<br>
java -XX:StringTableSize=100003 -Xms6000M -Xmx13300M -cp d:\mkgmap\lib\optional\splitte<wbr>r-412.jar;d:\mkgmap\dist\mkgma<wbr>p.jar uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Mai<wbr>n --max-jobs=8 ...<br>
Replace d:\mkgmap with the directory where you ran the ant resolve-optional dist command<br>
<span><br>
Gerd<br>
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</span>Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Februar 2018 21:29:20<br>
<span>An: Development list for mkgmap<br>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Bug in Road Merging - actually doubling roads.<br>
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</span><span>I looked into the files for sometime - and right now tried to compile it with the patched mkgmap version - however I get:<br>
C:\OpenMTBMap\maps>start /low /b /wait java -jar -XX:StringTableSize=100003 -Xms6000M -Xmx13300M C:\openmtbmap\mkgmap.jar --max-jobs=8 "--generate-sea" --code-page=1252 "--precomp-sea=C:\openmtbmap\m<wbr>aps\sea.zip" "--style-file=C:\openmtbmap\te<wbr>st_style" --lower-case --nsis --index --levels="0:24, 1:23, 2:22, 3:21, 4:20, 5:19, 6:18" --overview-levels="7:17, 8:16, 9:15, 10:14, 11:13, 12:12" --add-pois<br>
-to-areas --pois-to-areas-placement=entr<wbr>ance=main;entrance=yes;buildin<wbr>g=entrance;barrier=entrance --reduce-point-density=3.4 --reduce-point-density-polygon<wbr>=6 --cycle-map --ignore-fixme-values --housenumbers --link-pois-to-ways --ignore-turn-restrictions --polygon-size-limits="24:16, 23:14, 22:12, 21:11, 20:10, 19:9, 18:8, 17:7, 16:6, 15:5, 14:4, 13:3, 12:2, 11:0, 10:0" --description=openmtbmap_it<br>
</span>--show-profiles=1 --location-autofill=bounds,is_<wbr>in,nearest --bounds=C:\openmtbmap\maps\bo<wbr>unds.zip --route --country-abbr=it --country-name=italy --mapname=63670000 --family-id=6367 --product-id=1 --series-name=openmtbmap_italy<wbr>_27.02.2018 --family-name=mtbmap_it_27.02.<wbr>2018 --tdbfile --overview-mapname=mapsetc --keep-going --area-name="<a href="http://italy_27.02.2018_openmtbmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">italy_27.02.2018_<wbr>openmtbmap.org</a><<a href="http://italy_27.02.2018_openmtbmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://italy_27<wbr>.02.2018_openmtbmap.org</a>>" c:\openmtbmap\orig.osm.pbf 1<br>
<span>>NUL<br>
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError<wbr>: uk/me/parabola/splitter/Area<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.osmstyle<wbr>.WrongAngleFixer.writeOSM(Wron<wbr>gAngleFixer.java:1279)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.osmstyle<wbr>.WrongAngleFixer.printBadAngle<wbr>s(WrongAngleFixer.java:733)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.osmstyle<wbr>.WrongAngleFixer.optimizeWays(<wbr>WrongAngleFixer.java:90)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.osmstyle<wbr>.StyledConverter.end(StyledCon<wbr>verter.java:609)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.o<wbr>sm.ElementSaver.convert(Elemen<wbr>tSaver.java:243)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.o<wbr>sm.OsmMapDataSource.load(OsmMa<wbr>pDataSource.java:157)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Map<wbr>Maker.loadFromFile(MapMaker.ja<wbr>va:154)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Map<wbr>Maker.makeMap(MapMaker.java:52<wbr>)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Mai<wbr>n$1.call(Main.java:290)<br>
at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Mai<wbr>n$1.call(Main.java:286)<br>
at java.util.concurrent.FutureTas<wbr>k.run(Unknown Source)<br>
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoo<wbr>lExecutor.runWorker(Unknown Source)<br>
at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoo<wbr>lExecutor$Worker.run(Unknown Source)<br>
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)<br>
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundExcepti<wbr>on: uk.me.parabola.splitter.Area<br>
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findCl<wbr>ass(Unknown Source)<br>
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClas<wbr>s(Unknown Source)<br>
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoad<wbr>er.loadClass(Unknown Source)<br>
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClas<wbr>s(Unknown Source)<br>
... 14 more<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As for compiling the orig.osm.pbf with my style - the resulting map is here:<br>
<a href="https://openmtbmap.org/orig_osm_compiled.zip" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openmtbmap.org/orig_os<wbr>m_compiled.zip</a><br>
<br>
</span><span>On 27 February 2018 at 13:48, Felix Hartmann <<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a><mailt<wbr>o:<a href="mailto:extremecarver@gmail.com" target="_blank">extremecarver@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Had no time the last 3 days, I'm right now testing some things will post back in a couple of hours....<br>
<br>
</span><span>On 27 February 2018 at 12:01, Gerd Petermann <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.c<wbr>om</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
</span>any feedback?<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
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<span>Gesendet: Samstag, 24. Februar 2018 10:36:29<br>
An: Development list for mkgmap<br>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Bug in Road Merging - actually doubling roads.<br>
<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
maybe this helps already:<br>
Attached is a small patch that changes StyledConverter so that it only accepts 4 routable ways for one OSM way.<br>
Any further routable way for the same OSM way creates just a warning.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
<br>
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</span><span>Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Februar 2018 19:08:45<br>
An: Development list for mkgmap<br>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Bug in Road Merging - actually doubling roads.<br>
<br>
I think merging is fine - maybe just add restrictions to the adjoining ways if preset. And it really should not happen that ways are merged past a junction - I now think this happens in some more places. Because it's not the first time I notice that a routing turns 180° to return to the junction to actually turn.<br>
And maybe could there be a filter that there are never more than 5 routable ways from continue command? From 6 onwards it crashes devices. Maybe even from 5 onwards. 1 routable original and 3 routable overlays are definitely fine. (Basecamp/Mapsource don't care - it only crashes GPS devices).<br>
<br>
</span><span>On 23 February 2018 at 09:12, Henning Scholland <<a href="mailto:osm@hscholland.de" target="_blank">osm@hscholland.de</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:osm@hscholland.de" target="_blank">osm@<wbr>hscholland.de</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:osm@hscholland.de" target="_blank">osm@hsch<wbr>olland.de</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:osm@hscholland.de" target="_blank">osm@hschollan<wbr>d.de</a>>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Gerd,<br>
Maybe it's better to try to merge these small ways as they anyway only creates 'ugly' roads. With increasing level of details in OSM I think mkgmap will need some preprocessing to generalise the data first. I'm not only thinking about these very small ways, but also have the lane-mapping and other mapping details, which are not important for Garmin maps.<br>
Henning<br>
</span><span>On 23 Feb 2018, at 15:21, Gerd Petermann <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.c<wbr>om</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann<wbr>_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">g<wbr>petermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><wbr>>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
</span><span>I have to think about this for a while. There are three very short ways connected in node 412440328:<br>
way 130665733 : the northern node 1263658617 is close to a Garmin grid point, the sourthern node 412440328 is also closer to this grid point than to any other,<br>
so both are rounded to the same grid point in the north, and finally it is ignored.<br>
way 110722884: the way is only ~1m long and both nodes are far from any Garmin grid point. This is the way that is causing the trouble.<br>
It is not removed, instead the initial rounding changes it to a ~3m way going north -> south.<br>
way 130663479: the way has 3 nodes, and the one in the middle (node 1263658804) is rounded to the same coords as the ends of the bridge (way 103567847) and way 110722884, while the northern node 412440328 is moved up.<br>
<br>
I've attached 4 files to document the problem. Please load into JOSM to visualize:<br>
orig.osm.pbf: the original osm data<br>
init_hp.osm.pbf: the road network as input to WrongAngleFixer in so called "high precision"<br>
init_mu.osm.pbf: like init_hp.osm.pbf, but rounded to Garmin map units<br>
after-WO_mu.osm.pbf: the result of WrongAngleFixer with coords rounded to Garmin map units<br>
(please ignore the fact that the node ids in non-orig files are wrong)<br>
<br>
Somehow I have to teach mkgmap that it would be better to ignore (also) way 110722884. I don't know yet what criteria I should use for that.<br>
Normally we try to keep all routable ways, as they may contain access restrictions.<br>
<br>
BTW: There is more such trouble near way 111528851.<br>
<br>
ciao,<br>
Gerd<br>
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</span><span>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2018 20:19:15<br>
An: Development list for mkgmap<br>
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Bug in Road Merging - actually doubling roads.<br>
<br>
Perfect. I guess my maps are the only one causing bsod here on devices, but without the bug they would be fine...<br>
<br>
</span><span>On 22 Feb 2018 20:03, "Gerd Petermann" <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.c<wbr>om</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@<wbr>hotmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann<wbr>_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">g<wbr>petermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><wbr>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@<wbr>hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_<wbr>muenchen@hotmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">g<wbr>petermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><wbr><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@ho<wbr>tmail.com</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
I can reproduce the problem with a small download around the way and just the --route option.<br>
The problem seems to be in WrongAngleFixer, it says<br>
"... all points of way <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/130665733" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/w<wbr>ay/130665733</a> are rounded to equal map units"<br>
No idea why the way is not reduced to a single point, will investigate further.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
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<span>Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2018 19:27:44<br>
An: Development list for mkgmap<br>
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] Bug in Road Merging - actually doubling roads.<br>
<br>
I just noticed that mkgmap sometimes creates a lot more routable roads for a certain stretch than actually defined in the style-file.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/130665733" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>way/130665733</a><br>
<br>
should be only once as a routable line in my map, however it ends up 6 times!<br>
Once is correct, but 5 iterations are actually the way from the south (3 times) and the way from the East (2 times). Now each of these ways should be created that often, however it should not overlay into this short stretch of way.<br>
<br>
While doubling up ways can be beneficial for routing, having a way more than 5 times on top of each other let's Garmin devices crash on routing over them. Also it leads to detours - as it will not always route straight from the Way from South to the Way going to the West, but follow along after the intersection for 4.3m until hitting up north, then reversing and finally going to the way in the West.<br>
<br>
I've uploaded the tile here:<br>
<a href="https://openmtbmap.org/gmapsupp_copied.img" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://openmtbmap.org/gmapsup<wbr>p_copied.img</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I'm pretty sure that with other style-files - the way will also be copied past the intersection and end up too often in the map for that 4.3m stretch...<br>
<br>
<br>
I kinda guess it is related to it being so short - that place has some remarkable micro-mapping detail.<br>
Or is this really expected?<br>
<br>
<br>
If needed I can try to create a reduced style to only create that problem - but I think the bug should be obvious.<br>
<br>
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