<div dir="ltr">yes I also don't see a need for the route relation name in the search - but I do see it as a need to see the route names on tooltip for all routes that use a way. That's why I mean I would like to add them into non searchable labels. <div>Even though for certain ways - I would like them included - e.g. Donauradweg - because quite often you would like to know where is the nearest point of the Donauradweg or other international/famous routes - but not for local ones.</div><div><br></div><div>Locally you would often say let's meet on the Donauradweg at the intersection with X or restaurant XY on Donauradweg - not in a city like Vienna, but in mid sized cities. Everyone knows then what is meant - and that kinda should be searchable via address search. No-one locally knows the actual street names (if they exist). So in case there is no street name label, using a route name instead makes sense too.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 13:10, Gerd Petermann <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
I still don't see a use case for the route names in road labels. I've never felt the need to find a route relation.<br>
<br>
I am pretty sure that it can produce all kinds of confusion when you search for an address and the result<br>
contains lots of unrelated stuff because there is a route relation that has a word in its name which starts<br>
with the same word.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
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okay - well I should try to find a way to put more content into the label 2-4 instead of 1 then. The cutoff is still good. Some routes have very long names.<br>
<br>
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 12:43, Gerd Petermann <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
the labels which are shown in MapSource / Basecamp search are those which are stored in MDR 15.<br>
We change them already with the --mdr7-del option but that doesn't help for the names of route relations.<br>
mkgmap reads the full labels from the LBL file in each map tile and calculates the string for MDR15.<br>
Still, MDR15 is not used with the device, so this only effects the PC programs.<br>
Roads have 4 labels, other objects have only 1. With roads, the<br>
first label is rendered, other labels are shown when you click on the road.<br>
All labels are indexed, and the --housenumber code sometimes adds labels so that addresses can be found.<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
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Gesendet: Montag, 13. Dezember 2021 12:29<br>
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I tried a couple of places that are cut down to 170 characters - and some I can find in Mapsource or Basecamp, Others I cannot. So 170 is definitely too much for the search index. Is there a way to have separate label for search vs the label on tooltip/printed out on the label? For search it clearly should be less (both Mapsurce and Basecamp).<br>
In general it would be good to have a separation between name for search and name for the label. I know we have 4 labels, but I haven*t really understood which label is for what and where which label shows up.<br>
<br>
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 11:46, Gerd Petermann <<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com" target="_blank">gpetermann_muenchen@hotmail.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Felix,<br>
<br>
okay, I've committed the changes with r4836.<br>
It would be good to know if these long strings cause trouble in MapSource.<br>
I wouldn't be surprised to find that they cause buffer overflows if Garmin<br>
doesn't expect more than N bytes, and that again can cause all kinds of trouble.<br>
Will try to reproduce the problem with a modified default style ...<br>
<br>
Gerd<br>
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Gesendet: Montag, 13. Dezember 2021 11:32<br>
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it's working fine for me too. But I haven't got around to testing if the length should even be shorter related to search.function. Clearly anything over 170 is not useful. Maybe it should be even shorter, but apart from the value it works well<br>
<br>
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 10:28, Ticker Berkin <<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a>>><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk" target="_blank">rwb-mkgmap@jagit.co.uk</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
Hi Gerd<br>
<br>
I don't have any problem with it<br>
<br>
Ticker<br>
<br>
On Mon, 2021-12-13 at 09:02 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> I got no feedback on the patch label_len170.patch. Any comments?<br>
><br>
> Gerd<br>
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