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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think you may be right. Strangely my Etrex 32x gets Shiwa Ng’andu correct but Mchingi is still ‘Scottish’.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I did some investigating with a commercially available map from Tracks4Africa for Garmin devices produced about a year ago and found that in BaseCamp Shiwa Ng’andu is displayed incorrectly but Mchingi, the town in Malawi, is displayed correctly. Tracks4Africa maps are produced using information provided by users, mainly South African, who upload gps tracks and POIs from their overland trips and as a result I have found many errors in place name spelling, Mchingi is a case in point, the actual POI is spelt correctly but the traced residential area around is spelt Machingi. For those interested the ‘M’ of Mchingi is pronounced ‘mm’. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>According to the copyright info in the Tracks4Africa map the map is created using gps-mapper.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces@lists.mkgmap.org.uk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Thorn<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 May 2022 19:58<br><b>To:</b> mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mkgmap-dev] mkgmap-dev Digest, Vol 166, Issue 11<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Folks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think it is Basecamp trying to be clever, thinking it is a Scottish name.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I traced an item : McDuffs Monument in the .mp file; MCDUFFS MONUMENT in the compiled .img file from MKGMAP but displayed as McDuffs Monument in Basecamp.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, 25 May 2022 at 18:08, <<a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev-request@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev-request@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Send mkgmap-dev mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev-request@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev-request@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev-owner@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev-owner@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of mkgmap-dev digest..."<br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Name Capitalisation with Mkgmap (<a href="mailto:dfjkman@gmail.com" target="_blank">dfjkman@gmail.com</a>)<br><br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <<a href="mailto:dfjkman@gmail.com" target="_blank">dfjkman@gmail.com</a>><br>To: <<a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a>><br>Cc: <br>Bcc: <br>Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 09:29:40 +0200<br>Subject: [mkgmap-dev] Name Capitalisation with Mkgmap<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have noticed that in maps I compile of Zambia some of the place names have incorrect capitalization. I complied a map using the most basic options with both splitter and mkgmap to make sure it had nothing to do with any of my styles or options, the commands were as follows:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>java -jar -Xmx2g `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Utils\splitter\splitter.jar `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> "C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Data\zambia-latest.osm.pbf" `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> --output=pbf `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> --output-dir="C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Temp\Split_files" <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Java -jar -Xmx7g `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Utils\mkgmap\mkgmap.jar `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> --gmapi `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> --output-dir="C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Temp\Output Map" `<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> -c "C:\Users\Dave\Documents\Maps\Temp\Split_files\template.args" <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have attached screenshots from BaseCamp to indicate the problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The first is just over the border in Malawi, the Mchingi Forest Reserve, which is shown as McHingi, the ‘H’ should not be capitalised. There is also a town named Mchingi not shown and a mountain with the same name not mapped in OSM.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The second is of a place in Zambia called Shiwa Ng’andu, shown as Shiwa Ng’Andu, again the ‘A’ should not be capitalised, the apostrophe here indicates how the word Ng’andu is pronounced, a glottal stop. There used to be more examples of the glottal stop apostrophes in Zambian place names such as the town M’kushi but it seems that this practice is being dropped and the town name is now officially spelt Mkushi as is the district and river.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In both these cases I have checked and the OSM data is correct, so I am not sure if it is something hard coded in mkgmap or there is a way to correct it with options.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dave<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>mkgmap-dev mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk" target="_blank">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br><a href="https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mkgmap.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mkgmap-dev</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>