[mkgmap-dev] WG: AW: motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

Sun Feb 14 17:22:03 GMT 2016

I think the style could be changed to support this tag better,

but first someone should cleanup the existing data. I found

6425 ways with access=delivery , 5000+ of them are likely to be wrong,

Many have highway=residential and no other attributes reg. access.

I wonder how the residents get to there home on those roads ;-)

I'll do more checks reg. motor_vehicle=delivery and other variants.

Gerd

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Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 16:43
An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] WG: AW: motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

Sorry, forgot to reply to the list, see below ...

Gerd

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Von: Gerd Petermann
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 16:25
An: Colin Smale
Betreff: AW: AW: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

Hi Colin,

as I said, you can select "delivery" or "emergency" as a vehicle (at least in MapSource)

Gerd

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Von: Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 16:16
An: Gerd Petermann
Betreff: Re: AW: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

Hi Gerd,

Sorry, I didn't realise that.... I wonder in what way that affects the routing? How can the satnav know if you are delivering something? It can obviously know about your destination, but what's the actual function of the delivery (and emergency) flag? Possibly it is used in HGV devices, but then it will need a lot more info like height and weight restrictions.

Colin

On 2016-02-14 16:10, Gerd Petermann wrote:

Hi Colin,

well, the Garmin format has a flag for "delivery" (see tag mkgmap:delivery) which

can be set independently. You can also chose the vehicle "delivery". My understanding is

that tags like access=delivery should be used to manipulate this flag .

Similar case is emergency.

Gerd

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Von: Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 13:51
An: Development list for mkgmap
Cc: Gerd Petermann
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

>From an English-speaking standpoint I would associate delivery (in the context of "no entry except for delivery" for example) with the purpose of your visit (i.e. to deliver something) but not specific to a particular sort of vehicle, and not in itself related to the possession of individual permission.

I would suggest mapping access=delivery to access=destination, i.e. no access unless you actually need to be there. I think that's about as close as you can get within the Garmin access model.

--colin

On 2016-02-14 13:38, Gerd Petermann wrote:

If I got that right, the rules in inc/access should be changed so that

access=delivery (or variants like motorvehicle/ hgv/ motorcar etc ) is treated similar to goods=yes ?

Does anybody have working rules for this tag ?

Gerd

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Von: mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Gerd Petermann <GPetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Februar 2016 08:28
An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] motorvehicle=delivery seems to be ignored ?

Hi all,

I found this thread on the talk list:

http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Routing-through-access-delivery-tt5867583.html

I am about to answer there and a post a link to this forum.

Gerd

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