[mkgmap-dev] Elevation data just partially accessable by Basecamp

Fri Jan 10 18:27:08 GMT 2020

(sorry - should have written this before already. It is always better to
join maps using mkgmap -  because only then address search will continue to
work. And with mkgmap you can set this option too when just combining .img
files).

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 19:25, Felix Hartmann <extremecarver at gmail.com>
wrote:

> @Kalle - the flag is inside the TDB file I think - so when you merge/join
> a map - it needs to be written again into the tdb - because tdb has to be
> written newly. And it is possible with gmaptool - but maybe you need to
> enable both experimental and unstable options in gmaptool.
>
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 19:23, Felix Hartmann <extremecarver at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> oh yeah - I think if there is DEM present - routing does not matter?
>> Because with DEM the map will then also show profile for tracks. If a map
>> contains DEM - I guess show-profiles should be implied.
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 19:20, Felix Hartmann <extremecarver at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> show profile works without DEM in limited mode - meaning for routes
>>> only, but not for tracks. HOWEVER if you enable it with a map having
>>> neither contourlines NOR DEM info - it will cause crashes. So it is useful
>>> also for maps with contourlines only. Actually I've never tried what
>>> happens if you have a map with DEM but without contourlines. The
>>> DEM/contourlines can be in a separate layer (transparent tiles).
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 17:16, Gerd Petermann <
>>> gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kalle,
>>>>
>>>> good to hear. I am working on a patch for mkgmap, it seems I got
>>>> something completely wrong with this flag.
>>>>
>>>> There are two flags (also in gmaptool) and before r4119 mkgmap wrote a
>>>> 1 in the 2nd when DEM data was available, with 4119 this changed.
>>>> The documentation for the show-profiles option was written before r4119
>>>> and is wrong since then.
>>>>
>>>> It was the Adria Topo map that confused me.
>>>> It has DEM data but in flag that I thought was the hasDem flag was a 0,
>>>> while the show-profile flag was 1.
>>>> So, I thought the flag cannot mean hasDem and decided to write a 0
>>>> because this was also done before mkgmap supported DEM. Stupid me!
>>>>
>>>> Probable solution:
>>>> I think it was mentioned before that mkgmap probably reversed the order
>>>> of the "show-profiles" flag and the hasDem flag.
>>>> I think this is true, the Adria Topo map says "I have DEM data but
>>>> don't show profiles". Maybe this is because the map is not routable.
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to run some more tests ...
>>>> Gerd
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>>>> von Karl-Heinz Kühnlein <kalle_kuehnlein at hotmail.com>
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Januar 2020 16:55
>>>> An: Andrzej Popowski; mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
>>>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Elevation data just partially accessable
>>>> by      Basecamp
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrzej, Hi Gerd,
>>>>
>>>> YES, --show-profiles=1 solved the problem! GREAT!
>>>>
>>>> I didn't notice this option far away from the DEM options section of
>>>> the documentation. I suggest to move it to the DEM option section or give a
>>>> reference there.
>>>> This option might be usefull for trip planning even without DEM data if
>>>> contour lines are available. But i didn't tried it yet ...
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your help!
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Kalle
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>>>> von Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Januar 2020 14:45
>>>> An: Andrzej Popowski <popej at poczta.onet.pl>;
>>>> mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk <mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Elevation data just partially accessable by
>>>> Basecamp
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrzej,
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>> http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/option-show-profiles-and-DEM-tp5909983p5910016.html
>>>> you mention a hasDem flag. I cannot find the information have no idea
>>>> where this is. Please refresh my memory.
>>>>
>>>> Gerd
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>>>> von Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Januar 2020 15:13
>>>> An: Andrzej Popowski; mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
>>>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Elevation data just partially accessable by
>>>>  Basecamp
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrzej,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the hint, I totally forgot about this option. I use
>>>> show-profiles=1 for my map and when I remove that I can reproduce Kalles
>>>> problems.
>>>> So, it seems the description for the option is not correct. There was a
>>>> long discussion here:
>>>>
>>>> http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/option-show-profiles-and-DEM-tt5909983.html#a5910020
>>>>
>>>> I have to reread it first.
>>>>
>>>> Gerd
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>>>> von Andrzej Popowski <popej at poczta.onet.pl>
>>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Januar 2020 14:46
>>>> An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
>>>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Elevation data just partially accessable by
>>>> Basecamp
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> just have realized, that option --show-profiles could remain at default
>>>> 0 even when DEM are processed.
>>>>
>>>> Kalle, please make sure, that you include --show-profiles=1 in mkgmap
>>>> options.
>>>>
>>>> I think the default for --show-profiles could be dependent on DEM
>>>> presence. Would make less hassle.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Andrzej
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org
>> Schusterbergweg 32/8
>> 6020 Innsbruck
>> Austria - Österreich
>>
>
>
> --
> Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org
> Schusterbergweg 32/8
> 6020 Innsbruck
> Austria - Österreich
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