[mkgmap-dev] splitter and options --description / --geonames-file

Fri Apr 10 14:58:13 BST 2020

Hi, all,

I agree with the addition of the option --add-google-plus.

Since I do not know the locations of most villages, town, and cities in 
the cities500 file, naming the tiles after such entities is not as 
helpful as I would like. My problems occur in Garmin MapSource and in 
Garmin devices (I have over a dozen), where the tile description is 
often the only indication of the location of the problem. The villages, 
towns, and cities' name at least make the descriptions unique. That is 
why I prefer a description that gives me a location directly.

I found out why I was not getting the KML file that I had requested. The 
problem came from not reading the splitter documentation carefully 
enough . I had overlooked the error message that would have told me the 
file's proposed directory did not exist.

I got the kml file and used Google Earth to view it. No labels appear 
directly. I clicked on the tile in the northeast tile to see the text 
bubble.

A dictionary is not a thesaurus. A dictionary helps find the meaning of 
a word. A thesaurus helps finding a word for a meaning.

Ein Wörterbuch ist kein Thesaurus. Ein Wörterbuch hilft dabei, die 
Bedeutung eines Wortes zu finden. Ein Thesaurus hilft dabei, ein Wort 
für eine Bedeutung zu finden.

I am trying to go the opposite direction than the other suggestions.

As for the licensing issues, please see Google Plus Codes Terms of Use 
<https://plus.codes/terms>. They are quite liberal.

Randolph J. Herber

On 4/10/2020 3:21 AM, Ticker Berkin wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'd go for the idea of having the specific option eg --add-google-plus.
>
> Also, as a slight modification to the patch that increases the area
> beyond the tile looking for a city, maybe limit it double the tile size
> before giving up and just describing the tile with the mapName.
>
> Ticker
>
> On Fri, 2020-04-10 at 06:46 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
>> Hi Randolph,
>>
>> when I want to visualize the calulcated areas I use --write
>> -kml=splitter.kml. The output file splitter.kml can be used in JOSM
>> (with a plugin) as well as in Google Earth,
>> if you prefer that. The use in JOSM helps me to find issues where a
>> tile border might be involved.
>>
>> Anyhow, if others are interested I would use your patch with a
>> different option, something like --add-google-plus which would either
>> add the code to the city name or to the given description or to an
>> empty string so that splitter would always generate a unique tile
>> description.
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: Randolph J. Herber <army.bronze.star at gmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 10. April 2020 02:17
>> An: Development list for mkgmap; Gerd Petermann; Mike Baggaley;
>> Ticker Berkin
>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] splitter and options --description / -
>> -geonames-file
>>
>> Hi, all!
>>
>> Yes, it helps.
>>
>> It was not what I had in mind.
>>
>> [Fragment of          template.args showing the OLC or Google Plus
>> Codes that were          added.]
>>
>> These codes can be directly used to show the area in question: EG
>> -Alexandria:8G3F5W00+<https://plus.codes/8G3F5W00+>
>>
>> [Image of          Alexandria, Egypt, area referenced.]
>>
>> and for an Egyptian area with no cities with a population as large as
>> 15 000: EgyptUC:7GJM0000+<https://plus.codes/7GJM0000+>
>>
>> [Large area in        southern Egypt with no cities as large as 15
>> thousand people.]
>>
>> This area is in southern Egypt.
>>
>> The differences in AreaList.java, in Unix format are in the attached
>> differences file.
>>
>> The modified AreaList.java files in the attached java file.
>>
>> Can you now understand what I want and why?
>>
>> Randolph J. Herber
>>
>>
>> On 4/9/2020 9:48 AM, Gerd Petermann wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> sorry, I think some mails where not sent to the list. I've attached a
>> patch that adds a number to the city name when --geonames-file is
>> used and multiple tiles
>> are close to that city.
>>
>> I fear I don't know in what situation these names are important. So,
>> please try if this improves something.
>>
>> Gerd
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