[mkgmap-dev] mkgmap-dev Digest, Vol 143, Issue 54

Mon Jun 22 10:02:55 BST 2020

Hi,

I just would like to give you some feedback against the missing tile issue.
As a reminder, my Garmin device is a GPSMAP 66s.

I've changed the mapid of all tiles of France map to avoid overlapping with
the Belgium map I'm also using. Since this change, all tiles are displayed
properly. However at large scale (120km or 80km), some tiles are still
missing but I think this should be an issue with the 66s. The good news is
that when I zoom in, the missing tiles appear which was not the case
before. And as I'm using the scale 200m or 120m during my hiking or cycling
trips, that's not a problem anymore.

I've searched for a limit of tiles for a map but I didn't find one. For
custom maps KMZ, it seems to be a limit of 100 tiles (
https://support.garmin.com/en-CA/?faq=1Bz6TOQfUJ65zKV2l9IYAA) but it
shouldn't apply to the img map. My France map and the OpenTopoMap of France
have 120 tiles...

Thanks again for your help,
Pierre

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:02 PM Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> please don't attach more screenshots, they are the reason that mails are
> not forwarded immediately.
> The easiest way to set the mapid is the option in splitter. As long as you
> use only your own maps and those from Garmin you can use any id.
> Did you check how many tiles are contained in the open-topo map for
> France? Maybe John is right and the number is the limit.
> If you don't need a full map of France for your journey maybe use a
> polygon for splitter to cut the area you need.
>
> Gerd
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von
> Pierre Brico <pierre.brico at gmail.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2020 15:42
> An: Development list for mkgmap
> Cc: john at the-thorns.org.uk
> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mkgmap-dev Digest, Vol 143, Issue 54
>
>
> Hi Gerd,
>
> I've removed all my maps except the gmapbmap.img and gmaptz.img which were
> provided with the GPS itself.
>
> The result is better: some tiles are still missing when displaying the map
> at high scale BUT when I zoom in on those tiles, the map appears. Here are
> 2 screenshots.
>
> High scale:
> [327.bmp]
>
> Zoom in on the missing area:
> [338.bmp]
>
>
> If the problem comes from the mapid, how can I rename default 63240001,
> 63240002 to whatever values ? (I would like to be able to load Belgium maps
> with the France one).
>
> Thanks,
> Pierre
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:17 PM Gerd Petermann <
> gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com<mailto:gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
> Hi Pierre,
>
> Did you make sure that there is no other map on this device which contains
> equal mapids?
> Since you use the default 63240001, 63240002 I wonder if you also created
> another map with one of these ids. If that is possible, make sure to use a
> different id simply rename the other gmapsupp files from *.img to e.g.
> *.img_
> It is not sufficient to disable the map.
>
> Gerd
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>> im Auftrag von Pierre Brico <
> pierre.brico at gmail.com<mailto:pierre.brico at gmail.com>>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Juni 2020 15:10
> An: john at the-thorns.org.uk<mailto:john at the-thorns.org.uk>; Development
> list for mkgmap
> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] mkgmap-dev Digest, Vol 143, Issue 54
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. But in my case, the same map of France coming
> from OpenTopoMap is working perfectly. So I don't think that the tiles
> limit has been reached.
>
> Pierre
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 3:56 PM John Thorn <johnrthorn at gmail.com<mailto:
> johnrthorn at gmail.com><mailto:johnrthorn at gmail.com<mailto:
> johnrthorn at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> Just a thought....
>
> Is it a case of too many tiles on the device? Most devices have a limit on
> the number of tiles across all installed maps. Often c4000.
>
> John
>
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>    1. Re: Tiles missing (Joris Bo)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joris Bo <jorisbo at hotmail.com<mailto:jorisbo at hotmail.com><mailto:
> jorisbo at hotmail.com<mailto:jorisbo at hotmail.com>>>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 11:39:50 +0000
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Tiles missing
> Hi Brico,
>
> Does your newly created map displays in basecamp correctly?
> If no: The start is to find out why tiles are skipped by mkgmap or
> splitter by investigating the error logging  (This is the tip of Ticker)
> If yes: A start could be to disable all maps on your device by renaming
> the *.IMG extension to *._IMG except your own map.
> You can find the maps on both the device as the SSD in the map garmin
>
> If you created the maps the most straight forward way (without specifying
> family id and tile number start for example) you can easily create
> duplicate tile numbers which could conflict with other mapmakers. Default
> all tiles start with 6324xxx1
>
>
>
> Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk><mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>>> Namens Pierre Brico
> Verzonden: zondag 14 juni 2020 18:16
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> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Tiles missing
>
>
> Yes, my GPSMAP 66s runs the latest firmware (4.20 see
> https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=14337).
>
> Note that the France OpenTopoMap on the same device is working properly.
>
> I can also try the map on my 64s if this can help to identify the
> problem...
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:46 PM Ralf Kleineisel <ralf at kleineisel.de
> <mailto:ralf at kleineisel.de><mailto:ralf at kleineisel.de<mailto:
> ralf at kleineisel.de>>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 13.06.20 um 11:41 schrieb Pierre Brico:
>
> > A few months ago, I bought a Garmin GPSMAP 66s (I've already other
>
> > Now I would like to generate a map for my next holiday in France but I
> > have issues with missing tiles.
>
> does your device run the latest firmware? I had weird display problems
> with older firmware on my 64s.
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 14:08:28 +0200
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Tiles missing
>
> Hi Joris,
>
> I didn't install the map in basecamp but if it can help, I will.
>
> On my device I've moved all maps in a separated directories to disable
> them. The only one left was mine.
>
> To create the France map, I started from belgium-latest.osm.pbf downloaded
> from geofabrik.de<http://geofabrik.de><http://geofabrik.de>. Then I
> splitted it using splitter (r597) tool and then generated the map with
> mkgmap (r4525). The mkgmap command line option was:
>
> java -Xmx8G -jar $MKGMAP_DIR/mkgmap.jar --gmapsupp \
> --family-id=$FAMILY_ID \
> --product-id=0 \
> --product-version=1 \
> --draw-priority=20 \
> --family-name="OSM $COUNTRY_ISO" \
> --series-name="OSM $COUNTRY_ISO" \
> --country-name="$COUNTRY" \
> --country-abbr="$COUNTRY_ISO" \
> --max-jobs=8 \
> --latin1 \
> --index \
> --split-name-index \
> --housenumbers \
> --reduce-point-density=4 \
> --reduce-point-density-polygon=8 \
> --min-size-polygon=8 \
> --polygon-size-limits="24:12, 18:10, 16:8, 14:4, 12:2, 11:0" \
> --route \
> --make-opposite-cycleways \
> --add-pois-to-areas \
> --process-destination \
> --process-exits \
> --order-by-decreasing-area \
> --keep-going \
> --style-file=$MKGMAP_DIR/resources/styles --style=default \
> --bounds=$BOUNDS_FILE \
> --precomp-sea=$SEA_FILE \
> -c template.args ../typ/2000.typ \
> --description="OSM custom routable(${COUNTRY_ISO}_$(date "+%d-%m-%Y"))"
>
> with template.args coming from the splitter step.
>
> Note that I've identified a (amongst several) missing tile and the name of
> the tile was in the template.args. Moreover, the tile which doesn't display
> on my device, is shown by GMapTool on the final IMG.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Pierre
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:39 PM Joris Bo <jorisbo at hotmail.com<mailto:
> jorisbo at hotmail.com><mailto:jorisbo at hotmail.com<mailto:jorisbo at hotmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> Hi Brico,
>
> Does your newly created map displays in basecamp correctly?
> If no: The start is to find out why tiles are skipped by mkgmap or
> splitter by investigating the error logging  (This is the tip of Ticker)
> If yes: A start could be to disable all maps on your device by renaming
> the *.IMG extension to *._IMG except your own map.
> You can find the maps on both the device as the SSD in the map garmin
>
> If you created the maps the most straight forward way (without specifying
> family id and tile number start for example) you can easily create
> duplicate tile numbers which could conflict with other mapmakers. Default
> all tiles start with 6324xxx1
>
>
>
> Van: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk><mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>>> Namens Pierre Brico
> Verzonden: zondag 14 juni 2020 18:16
> Aan: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk<mailto:
> mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk><mailto:mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> <mailto:mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>>>
> Onderwerp: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Tiles missing
>
>
> Yes, my GPSMAP 66s runs the latest firmware (4.20 see
> https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=14337).
>
> Note that the France OpenTopoMap on the same device is working properly.
>
> I can also try the map on my 64s if this can help to identify the
> problem...
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:46 PM Ralf Kleineisel <ralf at kleineisel.de
> <mailto:ralf at kleineisel.de><mailto:ralf at kleineisel.de<mailto:
> ralf at kleineisel.de>>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 13.06.20 um 11:41 schrieb Pierre Brico:
>
> > A few months ago, I bought a Garmin GPSMAP 66s (I've already other
>
> > Now I would like to generate a map for my next holiday in France but I
> > have issues with missing tiles.
>
> does your device run the latest firmware? I had weird display problems
> with older firmware on my 64s.
>
>
>
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